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Acne Rosacea
IPL & Laser Treatment Options
Lumenis User Group Malta November 2008
  • Dr Peter Crouch
  • The Burghley Park Clinic
  • & Great Western Laser Unit
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The Conditions that are Rosacea
  • Typical symptomatic presentations


    • Red face alone
    • Flushing alone
    • Mixed Red face AND Flushing


    • Oh and … (Not Rosacea)


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Clinical streams…
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Red face alone
  • I first use Intense Pulsed Light


    • Consent and test patch first
    • Establish efficacy upon 4-6 week review
    • Start conservatively
    • Build up treatments
    • Mix in photorejuvenation
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Filter and fluence influence depth
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“T.R.IPL.C”
  • Three range I.P.L. with Clarithromycin


  • 590nm 22 J/cm2 1st Pass
  • 615nm 24 J/cm2 2nd Pass 90o
  • 695nm 26 J/cm2 3rd Pass 90o


  • Clarithromycin 250mg BD for two weeks
  • Clarithromycin 25omg OD for two weeks
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Orientation change
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Selective Photo thermo lysis
  • In order to target a specific tissue, one should select a wavelength which is strongly absorbed by a chromophore present in that tissue.
  • Most medical laser applications depend on the absorption of laser light to heat the target tissue.
  • To prevent undesirable thermal injury to adjacent tissue, light can be applied in suitably timed pulses related to the size of the target structure, according to the principle of Selective Photothermolysis.
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Three Range Intense Pulsed Light



  • With proper selection of the wavelength, exposure time, and intensity of the laser energy, the effect on the target tissue can be optimized and undesirable collateral effect on adjacent tissue can hopefully be minimized.
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How do settings evolve?

  • 590/615/695 nm  22/24/26 J/cm2
  • 590/615/695 nm  24/26/28 J/cm2
  • 560/615/695 nm  22/24/26 J/cm2
  • 560/615/695 nm  24/26/28 J/cm2
  • 515/615/695 nm  22/24/26 J/cm2
  • 515/615/695 nm  24/26/28 J/cm2




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Triple Pulses … why?
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Thermal Relaxation Time
  • The Thermal Relaxation Time ( tr) of a given structure is the time needed for 50% of the heat generated by absorption of a pulse of energy to diffuse into the surrounding tissue and is proportional to the square of the diameter of the target structure.


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IPL Long term Results?
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Medication
  • I don’t pre-flush with anything other
  • than the Zimmer cool air blower
  • Post IPL treatment  (not YAG)
  • I prescribe Clarithromycin
  • as an angiogenesis inhibitor
  •  Dosage:- 250mg BD for two weeks
  • Then 250mg OD for two weeks (then stop)
  • Note – this is not licensed for this indication
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IPL resistant cases ?
  • Consider Pulse Dye Laser
    • Effective (in all but a few PDL resistant cases)


    • Less even results


    • IPL may even out uneven results after Pulse Dye Laser treatment even if the initial condition was resistant.
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Flushing


  • My face burns, heats up and “seems to swell…”


  • Different triggers
  • Time of day
  • Hormonal cycle


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We stumbled on something…
  • Nd:YAG 1064nm is FDA cleared for photorejuvenation


    • Some of our patients are inevitably those who present with rosacea and list flushing as a problem
    • Some patients who opted for photorejuvenation reported that their flushing got worse for 2-4 weeks…
    • BUT crucially, then reported that it reduced below baseline after 6 weeks… and wanted more Thx


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Nd:YAG  Short and Long term results?
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How do we treat flushing?
  • Nd:YAG
  • 1064nm
  • 4-6 passes
  • 10mm spot size
  • 50ms pulse width



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IPL Vs Nd:YAG
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Role of Pulse dye for Seb Derm
  • Seb Derm can flare with IPL


  • Tony Chu at The Hammersmith has been using Nlite Pulse Dye Laser for calming down Seb Derm


  • The Nlite Chaser (2.5J/cm2 – single pass) is used to prevent a Seb Derm Flare next time
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IPL may cause a flare this time so use
Pulse Dye as a prevention for next time
  • Pulse Dye treatment as “a chaser” is an investment for next time
  • Its all the rage at the moment with our clients
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How are we trying to make sense of all of this?
  • I was recently asked to explain how I categorise patient factors (skin type), treatment aims, treatment response, long term outcomes and patient satisfaction when multiple conditions requiring different treatments are all present.
  • It is no simple task. Sometimes I think we have invented a new language altogether. Although it is complicated, it attempts to assign  numbers to subjective measures


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We are developing scoring charts to help both us and patients chart their progress in a standardised way
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Patient Satisfaction Overall
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Relapsing Condition Outcome ?
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Immediate Tissue Energy Tolerance
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Immediate Treatment Response
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We have started recording...
  • FPST2 Skin type 2
  • FL3 Mixed flushing and basal redness
  • SD2 Moderate Seb Derm
  • TE1 Mild surface redness
  • PI2 Moderate dispigmentation
  • TE1:IPL2;ITET2;ITR2;PTE2;RCO1;PTE3;PSO3
  • Skin tolerated IPL well with little side effects and slight relapse, patient v. happy
  • FL3:NDY2;ITET2;ITR2;PTE2;RCO0;PTE3; PSO3
  • Skin tolerated Nd:YAG well with little side effects and no relapse patient v. happy
  • SD2:PDL2;ITET2;ITR2;PTE2;RCO2; PTE3; PSO3
  • Skin tolerated PDL well with little side effects but moderate relapse patient v. happy
  • PI2:KTP-1;ITET-1:ITR0;PTE0;RCO NA; PTE-1; PSO3
  • Mild transient side effects from KTP, no response, innocent bystander tissue damage patient not happy with this treatment but is happy overall



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The light responsive condition & light tolerant skin
  • Whilst a patient’s skin may be light tolerant, the condition requiring treatment may not turn out to be light responsive. Often you can only reach the conclusion that a patient sadly has a condition unresponsive to IPL or laser only after test patching has established that the skin can tolerate the treatment and after the skin condition does not respond to the treatment.
  • Patients may be able to tolerate one treatment modality and have a condition that is very responsive to, for example, IPL for rosacea but be unable to tolerate KTP laser treatment for pigmentation.
  • Sometimes, one treatment modality is chosen, not because it is the most effective but because although it is only moderately effective it can be delivered as it is best tolerated.
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Conclusion
  • Rosacea is a very common condition
    • It is not one condition
    • Presentation is often symptom based
      • Basal Redness
      • Flushing
      • Mixed picture
    • Beware other conditions presenting as Rosacea
    • Rosacea is treatable but be clear with patients what to expect and develop & stick to clear & logical protocols. Document contemporaneously.